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brews
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brews
Post Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 23, 2007, 08:34

Congrats to Sonnie!!

What wall is it on? Would love to see a photo if any are available.

dr. send
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willko
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 23, 2007, 10:11

What’s a mirco cam? Is it one of those cams that was manufactured at 2 in the morning on a worknight, and after hours of assembly the manufacturers notice that there is an obvious defect, but since they’re too tired to go back and fix it they upload it to Youtube anyway and go smoke a blunt, even though the whole clip was all one boring cut and it didn’t actually take hours to manufacture, they just didn’t care that much because pot makes you lazy and apathetic and they weren’t paying attention when the youth outreach dude at their elementary school was telling them to Say no to drugs! because they were too busy snapping Julie’s bra strap, since she was a little pudgy and she was the first one to get a training bra?

silver
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silver
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 23, 2007, 16:04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH1N1c8fbeQ

prez
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seb
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 23, 2007, 17:10

wtf are you babbling about?  are you on drugs or something?  Maybe you should have listened to the outreach dude too.
Although, I agree about your comment on the vid, it isn’t especially motivating even though it looks hard and somewhat runout, half pad edges at 20º are jugs for Sonnie :0).
I like the campus video better.

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stone_mason
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stone_mason
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 27, 2007, 03:48

wow! That looks intense! Nice solid climbing on tiny cams……

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clc
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clc
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 27, 2007, 17:18

i hope sonnie does not chop all the bolted cracks he can climb.  there will be no routes left for me.  Ah sh*t i just drilled 1 bolt on a 5.10 crack.  Owens river better watch out!

noahz
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noahz
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: August 29, 2007, 12:29

Awesome! Gotta have balls of steel to do that!

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chris neve
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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 4, 2007, 00:06

Not for me to enlighten you… just wonder why questions can’t be asked while still celebrating the climb.

Besides, maybe none of us shouldn’t be even discussing this with any seriousness since it is probably not within the range of any of the posters who have commented so far… unless doyle is Mike Doyle.

Just people talking, no real harm being done…

Chris

chris neve
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Chris
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 4, 2007, 04:34

Why not have both options - leave the bolts for those who want to work it that way, this wouldn’t affect the attempts with trad gear, would it?

Awesome climb regardless, Sonnie, congrats…

Chris

prez
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seb
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 4, 2007, 06:01

I agree with Jenny’s perspective.  And Chris’s for that matter.
I’d add if safety was an issue wrt the old bolts, why not rebolt to sensibly what it was, possibly rethinking clipping position to interfere as little a possible with the movement of the climb.
I understand that the given privilege of the FA is a basis to the ethic of bolting/not bolting routes.  I think that the HeadPoint approach-including the total absence of bolts on climbs-should be left to the areas where the style is already instilled, or at least practiced such that it doesn’t keep other climbers to access the climb.
Bolting allows more climbers to experience a certain climb.  While still allowing a route to be experienced in other style–typically headpoint using trad gear. 
I dont mean to personally judge Sonnie, no way, I think this topic brings up a subject that requires constant discussion, since the question of ethic is an evolving thing changing with the crowds and time.
I’ll start a new post for that matter Presentational Image
it seems more appropriate.

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