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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 27, 2007, 17:15

Now I get it.

SO! the moderator of this forum, is really one of those… weak little people, sark, harihari, bigwood, johna, or Mr Vagina, that likes to target and gang up on better people than themselves.  No wonder this site is so lame.

Has to be one of you.

Still I hope many got to read what I posted before it got deleted by.. ONE of YOU.

The truth is definately out there.

Just wanted to put this here incase you wanted to try and delete this one too.  Damn I’m pis*ed, ah but, maybe I did keep a copy of the two threads that just got deleted Presentational Image

I will go and have a look.  But if I didn’t count yourselves lucky this time the next time you may not be. 

To the rest on here that got fed up with these 5-6 members spatting their usual crap about someone they never met; you could’ve had a REAL laugh at these guys, equally as much as I have.  Still, at least a good 300 + did before it got deleted..

I just hope the ones that matter did too Presentational Image

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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 27, 2007, 17:29

And harihari (Chris), I would take your earlier advice that you emailed to Suzzy, to change her user names ongoing, when people on here were toying with her and winding her up purposefully, only for their pure enjoyment remember that?  Just wanted to remind you, but she still has copies of your emails in case you wanted to deny any of that.

And since you and your cruel inhumane online friends liked to target her so much on here for the last, how many weeks?  You may be best to all change your user names, to one, not many, and, turn over a new leaf and focus more on being nice to others Presentational Image
I say ‘online friends’, as those that you only interact with on a website but never actually physically meet, are not quite the same as those friends you have in real life; but I sympathise, you may not know that, depends what you are used to.

Anyway, seriously now, focus on only being nice to others, and their feelings, and you’ll be amazed at the difference it creates.  That way you get more climbing partners, get outside alot more and off your pc too, which is far more healthy.

P.S. Ooh and just one more little pointer (and don’t worry I am less piddled than I was earlier, funny though that wasn’t it (wink wink) Aha ha ha. 

Seriously now, you might like to apologise to her for the bad way you treated her, and how you wanted her portrayed, which as you full well know, was FAR from accurate.  If you are REALLY lucky, she may even forgive you, but if it takes time, well you can expect that can’t you?  Under the circumstances.

Gorb; I’d much rather settle with a smooth red wine; ‘Pino Noir’, but you go ahead and take those red or blue pills, as you wish.  You may like to learn to chill out a little dear Presentational Image

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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 27, 2007, 23:25

And just so you all are fully aware.  That better suzzy person they all liked to spat on about, who they never even once met, is definately NOT! crazy.  She was more accurately correct to trust all her instincts about them.

Even more ACCURATELY, the REAL crazy ones on here, are those 5-6 members I just listed who never shut up targetting her.  WEAK they ARE.

Still at least their lovely? thread that they’d started, with those ever so nice posts?? also got deleted.  Just before it nicely got turned around, to get directed back to them.

The reason they liked to gang up on her, is she is too strong, and quite right in all she said.  But they are too weak, and that they couldn’t handle.  Did you see how johnas threatened her to contact Sonnie? It took 5-6 of them to fight and attempt to intimidate her.  It took one woman to stand up to them.

My apologies to you all. I realise I needn’t point out something that you didn’t already know Presentational Image

I hope they did at least learn a valuable lesson.  NEVER to treat anyone so inhumanely again. A better way, is to treat others as you would like to be treated.  You have a good life.  Happy climbing people Presentational Image
Unlike the more darker members of this site.  I only wish you all well, sincerely.

bigwood
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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 28, 2007, 12:20

His justification for chopping the bolts because they were old and some were in the wrong place is weak. Climbers have always replaced old bolts and and even moved them to more appropriate locations when working routes. A friend of mine has climbed with Sonnie and told me about how Mr Trotter moved bolts on Titan Presentational Image to better serve his redpoint. He also mentioned that Sonnie added a working bolt. Not exactly sure of these details but i’ll try and contact my mate in Canada to confirm.

harihari
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chris
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 28, 2007, 13:12

>For me I could care less if I am right or not. It’s how I feel about >changing a route. And staying true to myself about that subject!

Well, if it’s only your feelings that matter– and not some rational and shared criterion for right– then anything goes, for you…and for Sonnie, ceteris paribus.  First year philosophy.

chris stolz

Watch an 18-pitch free route go up at
http://gumbiesoncrack.blogspot.com

stone_mason
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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 28, 2007, 17:12

Damn it I did not want to but….. christ if you can’t beat’em join em…. f*$k that!!!

For anyone that has climbed an old route, that rarely ever see’s chalk let a lone a quick draw knows the feeling of clipping an old rusted piton, or mangy bolt. The first thing on your mind is damn it!! Where is a solid piece!!!

If the person whom bolted the route (most likely not on lead - but I’ve never seen the route), was offended than well Sonnie may have fucked up….oops.

But if not (and no I can’t be bothered to read like 200 posts from ….anyway) Who cares?? What the hell?? How many of you are climbing 5.14? let alone placing pro on 5.14?? Seriously that is the boldest thing I can imagine! I’d be such a pussy that most likely I’d clip ever manky bolt and still fudge in some lame wire here and there - in between massively long takes - and come on people SO WOULD 99% of you complaining???!!! if it’s so shit what happened go up there and re bolt the shit on lead, because you can’t tell me that rapping into a route and cessing out the gear isn’t full blown ‘cheating’ than you need to wake up and travel to the ’republic’, oh yeah leave your cams and chalk behind. 

Suspect bolts should be chopped - end of story. That shit is going to kill someone - maybe you -  and with the advent of micro cams, why replace them?

Peace out mo ‘foe’s, and oh yeah…..word to ya’momma.

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Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature’s peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.”

John Muir

sark astiq
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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 29, 2007, 00:54

Listen, Highway 1 goes right through Golden. Golden is not silent AT ALL.

bigwood
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Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: September 29, 2007, 06:44

Hey stone mason

I may be wrong but think the route was originally bolted from the top while hanging on the rope. Not so bold.

harihari
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chris
Post Re: Sonnie Trotter - the Path
on: October 3, 2007, 02:33

Sonnie’s blog is on his site

http://www.sonnietrotter.com/

chris stolz

Watch an 18-pitch free route go up at
http://gumbiesoncrack.blogspot.com

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