harihari wrote:I doubt it’s ever going to happen. Who is gonna live there? What work is there for that many people? How many people want to drive 120 km/day min. to commute to Vancouver to work? How will young ski-area employess afford these places? Probably they are trying to get Whistler to buy.

Anybody who works in Van but lives outside of Van except Burnaby. As they almost drive that distance everyday in smog and traffic.

Also there is the whole economy question– we are now seeing a slowdown in real estate, the US dollar is going to go further south, oil gas etc are only getting more expensive. Hardly optimal conditions for a massive new development in the relative middle of nowhere.

Thats the problem. They do not see the development to be in the middle of nowhere. They see it as the start of the highway. And why would you drive to Whistler when you could be on Garabaldi any time of the year?

cheers

gorby wrote:Yeah I understand what is going on…
I swim at Cat and Brohm. Oh how many cuts did you get?

I’ve been up to the old lodge. OK is what is going on better?

I’ve driven many of the 4X4 roads up there. Excellent on Brohm Ridge. If so I get it you want to keep it to yourself.

Do you really think that 90+ kms of paved road, 26 ski lifts, 2 golf courses and hotels, condos, townhouses, single family homes for 5000+ people is going to have less of an impact than dirtbikers and sledders? YES overall. Because it is going to happen like it or not.

The loggers f ucked the area twice as bad. The place needs to have something or it will be lost and ruined.

Once again I ask…
Do you work for GAS? NO. Do you work for Whistler and the out of towners that own that ski hill?

Have you been to any of the meetings? YES 1

Do you understand the concept of smart growth? I do, do you?

Do you think we need 2 more golf courses? I hate golf but it at least is a green space forever. So why not?
Do you think golf courses don’t use pesticide/herbicide/fertilizer? They do now but what if somebody came to them with a better way.

Do you think we need a crappy ski hill between Cypress and Whistler? No but something is going to happen. And I do feel better access to Garabaldi and area is needed. That is how you protect areas is by having better access that is controled.

Where are all the min. wage workers going to come from? Again not my problem

Where will all the water for the developments come from? The river like all the other water issues.

Where is all the sewage going to go? In your back yard. Maybe it would be a green solution????

Do you trust developers and investors to do what is right for the people of this community? I do not trust you so no I do not trust them either. Of course not thats why I am saying let have a say.

Is it really dark (and smelly) with your head up your ass? No just your bad breath from being in mine.

The planned development is not going to happen as planned. So try and see it from a different angle. I do get one point from you is you are a sledder or are able to get through the gate. Why the gate?
Gates are to keep others out. And yes without a doubt the sledders and dirt bikes are going to wreck the area completley. Why do you feel it is OK to ruin an area one way but pretend to care in another?

I will never support what is going on up there right now. Why do you feel the four foot deep dirt bike trenches in a Alpine area is OK or discarde OIL cans and OIL everywhere is better? Why is a cat track that leaks oil as fast as you can put it in is better? That is the question. Not how do we supply the min workers????? Maybe mexicans would like to come on up and see the place? Works in the states.

Why do you support this so strongly?
Do you understand the concept of smart growth?
Do you think Squamish needs 2 more golf courses?
Do you think pesticide/herbicide/fertilizer run-off from these golf courses won’t affect our best 2 (close to town) swimming holes?
Do you think we need a poorly planned ski hill with 80% crap terrain jammed up against Garibaldi Park?
Where are all the /hr service industry workers going to come from?
Do you really think these extremely wealthy investors and developers from out of town and out of country are going to look out for the best interests of the people of Squamish?
Wake up fool…
I live and work in Squamish and I will NEVER support this out of control real-estate development/land grab known as GAS.

Dear gorb,

Sorry but I do not support this (development) strongly at all. I just understand what is going on at the old lodge and anything is better for the environment. Do you understand what is going on? Have you been to Cat lake at all or the old ski lodge. Do you go to meetings just to write about the problems they may have and NOT think about the problems that ARE happening NOW.

You are the fool if you think it cannot be built in a formal way. I too live (lived many years) in Squamish and will be back before summers end. Look at Revelstokes it is being built in a enviro concept why not at Squamish.

You fear growth instead of trying to do something with it. Do you realy feel that what is going on with Cat lake and Brohm ridge and Brohm lake is OK. Do you do anything to take care of those areas???

I am opposed to what is going on. I feel if we can get into the back country we (as in climbers and outdoor people) would take way better care of the place then as is.

Why on gods green earth are they going to use pesticides. It may be law you cannot use those products before the place is built.

You cannot call Cat lake one of the best swimming holes going. Or are you that much of a fool. Have you ever dove into Cat lake(scuba) and cleaned it out at all? The best you will get from that lake is a gash from all the glass from the brokens bottles everywhere. Don’t be so blind the place is being trashed big time. Is that better?

The ski hill is in place already or at least the lodge that is trashed with the area. Go up and see for yourself. It is clear you have not. As for out of towners taking better care of the area then the local group well agian YES they make money from it, so they have a vested interest. The local groups have sh!t on it instead of taking care of it. 4X4’s onto the ice in the summer I mean come on. The place looks worse then the Ghost River and Waiparous? and they are recreation areas for 4bys. How can it look worse with a park right behind it????. Oh because the local groups are not taking care of it. Why is that big old gate in place?

Yeah I understand what is going on…
I swim at Cat and Brohm.
I’ve been up to the old lodge.
I’ve driven many of the 4X4 roads up there.
Do you really think that 90+ kms of paved road, 26 ski lifts, 2 golf courses and hotels, condos, townhouses, single family homes for 5000+ people is going to have less of an impact than dirtbikers and sledders?
Once again I ask…
Do you work for GAS?
Have you been to any of the meetings?
Do you understand the concept of smart growth?
Do you think we need 2 more golf courses?
Do you think golf courses don’t use pesticide/herbicide/fertilizer?
Do you think we need a crappy ski hill between Cypress and Whistler?
Where are all the min. wage workers going to come from?
Where will all the water for the developments come from?
Where is all the sewage going to go?
Do you trust developers and investors to do what is right for the people of this community?
Is it really dark (and smelly) with your head up your ass?

Hey Steve,

The only reason the money people do not stop in Squamish is because why would they.

No point in getting you sh!t in a knot. Its only a forum. Besides. The access society has done nothing to protect the rights of climbers in Squamish anyhow. And with what goes on in Powell River shows the real angenda of the access society.

Cheers