If your parents are funding your education to the tune of K a year, the overlap between your life and the real world of student loans, Kraft dinner, summer jobs and smelly roommates is probably minimal.

I dunno man. Look at Shep Steiner. Not only is he a 5.13-sending Rockies ubermensch, he’s a tenured art critic.

I just don’t think Quest is going to be putting out students of that calibre.

Sark Astiq wrote:How far did you get with post-secondary education Trad?
Did you take a year of basket weaving at a community college before deciding to pursue bagging grceries fulltime?

Sark what the F uck are you yapping about now????? What point do you think you are making?
You are such a nasty little minded dick head.

I bet you spent years of your life in a University just to post on Gripped and make nasty little comments to people. Learn to spell at least with your degree alright. Goes to show you how much you learned in all those years EH.

Rich people are the only ones who go to University these days. They all cost huge. Many go for years and years at a cost to society and never pay back loans.

Sark I would love to have a job where all I had to do was
BAG GROCERIES ALL DAY I would sleep better every night!

Sark Astiq wrote:Look at Shep Steiner. Not only is he a 5.13-sending Rockies ubermensch, he’s a tenured art critic.

Ok so what is your point? I am still unclear of what point you think you have made? Is he not a PHD who lectures to people who attend UBC and several other Unis all over the world?

Is his way of thinking in the same old way? I bet he feels without a Phd you are nothing and have no idea what is going on around you because you did not spend most of your life in a University.

All I am saying is I feel we need to have a better system and the old school of thought is just that old. The old school of thought holds back society and people. And it protects those who went to a University even if they are useless to society.

Gdm wrote:
So, I take offense when you put out a blanket statement saying that the old school of thought holds back society and people. I’ve put in a lot of hard work over the years to do exactly the opposite.

I understand how you must feel about my comments. However. The old school of thought does hold back society. I am constantly around PHD types and how they operate. I see first hand how under-grads are treated less then the PHD dudes and how some of the experts are not even in the same ball field as the under-grads. They seem to be clouded by the PHD on the door instead of listening to what the research has to say. It seems to take forever to get anything done as they always have a long drawn out process for everything. Why? I see this daily. No offence to you but in the field you work in could you have gone about it a different way and still have the knowledge you have?????

Remember… it takes all types… and I would hope you wouldn’t judge me in a negative light because I have a PhD, as I wouldn’t judge anyone if they didn’t. Albert Einstein didn’t and look what he accomplished!

The problem I have is that without the PHD many doors are closed and with the PHD too many doors are wide open even if they are completley off the wall. Society waste so much money and time. It could all go to a better education system.

As for Albert today he would not be given a chance and the world would not know what he was capable of doing. So what is your point? That is why I feel the system needs to change and how we look at learning needs to change nnow for society to truly benefit from its population.

Cheers